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dguest 5 hours ago [-]
The title of the original article [1] is a lot more clear:
Buoyancy regulation through modulation of onboard gas volume by resting sperm whales
They don't "blow bubbles" to sleep vertically, they vent gas to regulate their specific gravity. This allows them to sleep vertically below the surface. The scientists measured the gas release by listening for bubbles, but they did a lot more: they actually modeled the buoyancy of whales and compared it with data.
If you've done any scuba diving (or swimming) you're familiar with this method of buoyancy control. And most fish accomplish on actively transporting gas between an internal bladder and their blood.
The difference is that whales have no way to refill their lungs while submerged, which is why their dives start deep and slowly drift up: as long as they are drifting upward the volume in their lungs is expanding in response to decreasing pressure. So the bubbles are essentially a way of pumping the breaks, which is apparently something they can do in their sleep (if they are in fact sleeping).
Is anyone else slightly annoyed by the cutesy title? Of course I recognize that the meme economy runs on this stuff, so maybe it's just nerds like me.
> They don't "blow bubbles" to sleep vertically, they vent gas to regulate their specific gravity. This allows them to sleep vertically
When I read this I thought you'd discovered that the whales release the gas in a form other than by blowing bubbles, or that the purpose of doing so was for something other than improved sleep.
But no, the whales literally release air through their blowhole in the form of bubbles, and, at least during study you linked, they do this while resting to maintain their vertical orientation. An orientation, the paper theorises, that enables better sleep by not being buffeted by waves.
They quite literally blow bubbles to achieve restful, vertical sleep.
dguest 3 hours ago [-]
Oof, sorry if that was misleading.
Maybe I'm overly fixated on the "to" in "to achieve": the whale doesn't care about the bubbles, they serve no important purpose in helping them sleep, it's just what happens when you vent air under water.
It's also kind of a nitpick, but the scientists refer to resting whales, but specifically state that they don't know if they are sleeping. I guess getting a proper EEG on a sperm whale is another scientific frontier.
Edit: An awesome scientific frontier: honestly if anyone deserves my tax money it's the grad student trying to figure out how to measure brain waves in a submerged oceanic whale.
KurSix 34 minutes ago [-]
So like memey version is still pointing at the real mechanism
KurSix 43 minutes ago [-]
I think this is just the eternal tension between catchy headlines and the underlying science
KurSix 45 minutes ago [-]
I have a question... how many other "normal" animal behaviors are actually weird little hacks to deal with constraints we never think about?
sethammons 4 minutes ago [-]
Probably all of the behaviors. Life is resource management of inputs and outputs, and every niche has unique constraints. Pure sexual selection can lead to interesting solutions, but are still grounded in constraints.
jiggawatts 56 seconds ago [-]
Dolphins sleep with one hemisphere of the brain at a time.
Sharks never stop swimming because it’s the only way they can move water over their gills.
giardini 7 hours ago [-]
What happens if they have an attack of flatulence?
But seriously, this must happen sometimes!
karim79 7 hours ago [-]
They accelerate upwards and their bubbling metabolism will compensate. If any creatures on the surface die from inhalation of the fart then the whales become awake and feed on them immediately. Slumber resumed. It's like a background clean-up process.
jb1991 6 hours ago [-]
This is an interesting theory but it’s not at all how sperm whales eat and doesn’t fit into their dietary habits that we know of.
karim79 6 hours ago [-]
It was just a muse. I wasn't being serious at all.
jb1991 17 minutes ago [-]
I know, I was also not being serious.
pierrec 6 hours ago [-]
Yup, the old brap n' snap. Everyone who swims around whales knows and fears this.
karim79 5 hours ago [-]
Whale farts be deadly.
KurSix 37 minutes ago [-]
A real flatulence event would probably qualify as a minor geological disturbance
dnnehgf 10 hours ago [-]
same
8 hours ago [-]
kazinator 5 hours ago [-]
If these are rainbow bubbles, that conclusively proves the whales had ADHD therapy sessions.
KurSix 40 minutes ago [-]
I want to meet the clinician who can keep a 40‑ton patient engaged
karim79 4 hours ago [-]
It does 100%. Might also indicate use of psychodelics. Gotta go with the science.
If you've done any scuba diving (or swimming) you're familiar with this method of buoyancy control. And most fish accomplish on actively transporting gas between an internal bladder and their blood.
The difference is that whales have no way to refill their lungs while submerged, which is why their dives start deep and slowly drift up: as long as they are drifting upward the volume in their lungs is expanding in response to decreasing pressure. So the bubbles are essentially a way of pumping the breaks, which is apparently something they can do in their sleep (if they are in fact sleeping).
Is anyone else slightly annoyed by the cutesy title? Of course I recognize that the meme economy runs on this stuff, so maybe it's just nerds like me.
[1]: https://dmscdn.vuelio.co.uk/publicitem/61eae467-9527-4922-b9...
When I read this I thought you'd discovered that the whales release the gas in a form other than by blowing bubbles, or that the purpose of doing so was for something other than improved sleep.
But no, the whales literally release air through their blowhole in the form of bubbles, and, at least during study you linked, they do this while resting to maintain their vertical orientation. An orientation, the paper theorises, that enables better sleep by not being buffeted by waves.
They quite literally blow bubbles to achieve restful, vertical sleep.
Maybe I'm overly fixated on the "to" in "to achieve": the whale doesn't care about the bubbles, they serve no important purpose in helping them sleep, it's just what happens when you vent air under water.
It's also kind of a nitpick, but the scientists refer to resting whales, but specifically state that they don't know if they are sleeping. I guess getting a proper EEG on a sperm whale is another scientific frontier.
Edit: An awesome scientific frontier: honestly if anyone deserves my tax money it's the grad student trying to figure out how to measure brain waves in a submerged oceanic whale.
Sharks never stop swimming because it’s the only way they can move water over their gills.
But seriously, this must happen sometimes!